Henriette Weber

at reboot 8 I met Maya Lotan, who introduced her one year thesis ( called Urbanseeder) on the subject of “flirting focusing on the role of technology as a mediator to find love”.

at Lift07 the ever lovely dancing queen Maya Lotan was present again. This time around Urbanseeder had evolved into a flirty social network (almost going beta), which is designed to “give destiny a little push”.

Robert Scoble interviewed her for his Scobleshow on PodTech.net

here’s the video :

So – why do I name this blogpost “love past 2.0″? . Because Urbanseeder is another example of a social network going airborn – meaning that it is using 1st life presence as a part of it’s flirtatious game.

it works like this :

I think this is a very creative and potential way for social networks to transide outside of the web. It seems like it still has the web administration and network. This transition to 1st life, and the creativity and mindgame, that you get when you hunt people and seeds are absolutely brilliant.

So no more dull dating sites where people can turn themselves into a character they are really not! – I really think that this is a very interesting way that online flirting is evolving.

I would also claim that Urbanseeder has the web as a second source of information – because the action is happening with the seeding in the field and the mindgames between the people envolved.

And Maya – please hurry and make it beta – I can’t wait to play around with this community !

Ohh and if you want something really cute 2.0 and you’re not quite ready for urban seeder – you can see my photoalbum on love here

Tara Hunt has tagged me in her media consumption meme – so here goes:

web

I use the flock browser because I like its usability and it’s pretty. In my favorites toolbar I have links to my del.icio.us, CoComment, ma.gnolia, pinko marketing wiki, Can I Crash? and last (but not least) Toothless Tiger

for a feedreader I use Bloglines

Radio

I don’t listen to radio that much – but when I do – I use Pandora and I like the recommendation radio on last.fm

TV

we have an really old one for our daugthers cartoons – I don’t watch it that often though – Im a movie persononly when they have music nights on DR2 (danish tv) – this saturday there was an excellent music profile of Johnny Cash that I enjoyed very much… It even had his San Quentin concert in the documentary too – it was soo nice..
Movies

we have old school dvd’s – I would love to have something like NetFlix in Denmark though..favorite movies these days are “parenthood” and Fried Green Tomatoes

communication

jaiku, twitter, my nabaztag, phone, skype, colloquy, and on Adium everytime the computer is open. I am called Evelyn May in 2nd life – even though I’ve never used it much..

magazines

wired, the ecologist, wonderland mag, and sometimes In Style UK – for girlie stuff *s*

music

I use last.fm a lot, I get inspiration from their recommendation radio channel, and I often end up buying the tunes somewhere… I have a 80gb ipod where I have all mine and Thomas’ music stored.

I love concerts and I am a frequent festival goer ( will be here with björk and RHCP and the Who this summer)

play

Im the biggest mario fan in the world – so I have myself an old super nintendo where I have all the old mario games… I like the old disney’s alladin game too. I won a PSP from the plaze craze and am pretty hooked on a game called ” thrillville” these days…  ohh and im planning to get both a ps3 and a wii for my daughter…

to keep this spreading – I tag fellow lift07′ers: …Andre Ribenho, Noel Hidalgo, Gia Milinovich, Francesca Birks and Mark Kuznicki

- have fun guys !

I am catching the flu – my body is twisting and turning of incubation and ideas even though I can barely keep my eyes open due to the fever…

But I had a comment from Pedro Bruno, where he claims that we are right in between the ”web of people” and ”web of things”. And as I probably have claimed a lot recently, I think that there are some web apps who are pushing this. And for a good reason also !

These are the ones I call the ”transitional web apps” – the apps that are not only build on one web platform but are also using peripheral devices such as mobiles, WIFI bunnies, Chumby’ s, photoframes etc. I think this is THE most exciting tendency around these days and I have been waiting for this party to start for ages.

Ton Zijlstra came with an very interesting comment as well.

But Ton’s and Bruno’s comments got me wondering – is it more “people” ( social) we need – or is it more “things” (peripheral devices)?

I don’t know if more “social ” will do the trick for very much longer. I mean there has to be a limit of how “social” we can be. – We are connected in so many other ways now. I am leaning against more “things”. Social don’t cut it anymore… I don’t think so. If social is standing alone it’s boring. Social need the “web of things” to keep it growing.

Would you name your newest application with something typically web 2.0 ? – I don’t think so…

Ohh and I am looking forward to the day when somebody launches a “twitter+jaiku+nabaztag+chumby+plazes+imity application”.

I mean is there any reason not to, by now ?

Yes, I am still rambling about the transition meme. This is yet another transition post.

the web is webpages, blogs, communities purely based on webstandards and computers.
so the future of web and the future of connection:
I think they will be seperated from each other. They are not going to be the same thing anymore.

so being connected does not mean to be on the web. Being connected means that your gadgets are talking to your computer which is talking to your cellphone.

no more about web in this post.

now; connection.

So am I getting tired of asyncronious communication ? hell no, bring it on. So why am I so keen on declaring web 2.0 dead ? because for me it’s time to move ahead. there’s nothing more web 2.0 can do for me as a girl, well maybe, but I know all the analogies and I know the way the web 2.0 mindset works, I know it to pieces and it kinda bores me by now. Im not paying attention if I am at a conference and somebody important is talking about social applications and how to implement the web 2.0 mindset.

I can even receive Oscar updates from twitter now from people who are actually in the room, sitting next to Britney and Paris and telling me whats up.. if that isn’t making websites secondary in the information chain – then what is ? the personal, instant, spontanious informations supplied by my peers that I select myself is going to be primary source and then comes the web…
and that’s exactly my point. Making the web the secondary source of information. Not the first place to look for stuff ( because it’s actually going to be thrown in your face by the transitional mobile apps)

think about when Jaiku finally launches their sms’ service so you can get rss updates etc etc thrown at you on your phone. or you can have your chumby or your nabaztag read your blogs for you – perhaps even show them ?

it’s gonna be a thrilling but scary ride. A freakshow without comparison and it thrills me !

Im not even going to think about what will happen to viral la la land ( or viral marketing if you will) or hackers and spam – that’s a whole other story…

From Pedro’s pictures

Logic + Emotion has an excellent blogpost about if advertising could pollute twitter. Fx. having celebrities join twitter and be payed to mention all kinds of brands in his/hers twittering.

it’s an excellent point, and I think that it in some ways would be effective marketing. On the other side, I am sure that in the long run – it wouldnt be beneficial or substantial for the advertised company.

lets’ see.. what would happen if celebrities twittered brands all the time ?

1. twitter people would find out after the first 10 brand post ( probably less)
2. if I ran Twitter, I would kick them out of there…

I think that the people that are using twitter are used to salespitches. People know when they are being marketed at…

it’s an interesting thought though – and it will be interesting to see how the advertisement industry is going to adopt to the transitional mobil apps. Im sure they will work something out for us holy cluetrain crusaders to yell about…

(picture by Guido Van Nispen)

As time goes by, I start to wonder if the internet is going to be the first choice of channel to create communities, markets and conversations. Now I am almost sure that it’s going to be a part of the process, but it definetly wont be first choice of channel. When we talk future here, I would say 5 years from now.

However I do believe that Wifi is going to be controlling most of our 1st life items in a year or maybe two.
And I think the “web 2.0” companies should consider moving into 1st life – though still hanging on to the web of course, perhaps for administrational reasons but really explore the ” installations in 1st life” to be made to make the users even more happy ( and a bigger part of the community).
In the meantime I will urge the clever geeks of the world to come up with the “whatever is missing” to make the very slow transition away from the internet and back as installations in 1st life, as smooth as possible.

So right now, this is what I want to see being developed

I want 23 to make a photoscreen (photoframe) where all my pictures are rotating – like their slideshow that I displayed on this blog a couple of days ago, but in an actual installation in the home.
Now, I know that Philips is doing some really neat photoframes where pictures are rotating, but to actually bring the community into your house ( with the web as administration) and actually make community, customized and personalised installations and design. WOW !- but make the user the administrator – that would totally rock.. make people being able to send picture to each others photoframes! – remarkable !

I want jaiku on my SMS’es now – and I want it to be more categorizable than Twitter, I want to be able to say when I want sms’es from who and I want to be able to administrate and group Jaiku however I want.

But guys, listen up – this is what you should be doing. Making your web app an installation in a home. No even better, make a part of your product an installable in 1st life. Don’t get out of the internet, but start thinking future instead of web 2.0. Make the slow transition…

Ohh and if you nobody told you :

I did a little drawing today on the newly received book that arrived from Pedro and Patricia ( they even gave me an additional message)

but this is where I see the geeks right now… :

So even though there is the “something is missing” right in front of us – I think there are signs all over that the web applications are going airborn – outside the web – and without a necessary web administration feature included.

the biggest signs I see is that the communities are slowly moving away from the web and becoming more mobile ( either via cell phones or 1st life installations)…

so what does this mean ? – more creativity and “in-your-face communication” – I think it’s wonderful!

I am a bookfan – I will always be.

I love the way that knowledge and stories are connected in them.

So on 23 I have an album where I have putted all the books I’ve read over the last 1 – 2 years… and now I want to try the 23 slideshow feature and see how it works on this blog. Now I don’t know how long this has been a feature – but I just found out. Oh btw – that album is on flickr too now

I know I am changing a bit between 23 and Flickr – I guess the reason is that I miss the community and conversations on 23, this is something that Flickr has to a whole other extend, and probably why i upload more photos to Flickr than 23. Also I think that flickr is so much more integrated in different picture uploading tools ( like Iphoto etc) it just makes it much easier…

Still 23 is very close to my heart, and I guess that’s where I would put the 23 marketing as well , very close to the heart of people.

(picture: guess from where and who’s on it)..

So – Last week I came home from Lift07 where there was a lot of substainability issues within technology that was adressed.

The biggest questions where raised doing the digital divide panel – moderated by David Galipeau. Now the Digital Divide is the gap between those who has access to technology and those who hasn’t.

I am a firm believer that people will always benefit for technology – and I think that it is a good idea to try and minimize the divide by putting more technology in the less technologically advanced places.

The most interesting question about adressing the digital divide question came from Sugata Mitra who is the initiator of the infamous hole in the wall project . He wanted people who are keen on reducing the digital divide to find out if the less technological places would become better places if they where suddently exposed to more technology ?

I think this is a very key point to the question of the digital divide. Of course there will always be some places having more technology then others, but still, are we really sure that the people in the less technological places would be HAPPIER with more technology ? how do you make technology for illiterates ?

How could the less technological societies learn how to use this large package of technology without having the society collapsing to some extend ? would it fit with their current norms and ways of living ?

this is crossposted on Green Girls Global

(me and Noel Hidalgo taken at Lift07)

So at Lift07 there was nobody who said the word “blog” or “web 2.0″ which to me is a very visible sign that “blog” and “web 2.0″ is getting passé… slowly but firmly. It is not where the geeks are anymore.
Does this mean that Web 2.0 is dead ? hardly – now all the companies is starting to implement it and all the people who has been in it for the money is starting to make a lot of money.

I am finding myself moving further and further away from web 2.0. I am getting used to social. Will the cluetrain movement die ? No – but it’s gonna ride a different track.

and what a wonderful ride it is! – so what is next?

I think there is generally a “something is missing” tendency amongst the geeks.

there’s so many applications where you get the “something is missing” feeling. I would say that it’s changing from the communities on the internet. Because the communities are increasingly moving away from the internet. Want some proofs ?

If the communities are moving, it basically means that the people are moving to.

Still, there’s something missing. at Lift07 there was a lot of questions about the next tendency. I would claim that the transition from internet ( or second life) to real life is happening gradiently. So maybe there will come some day where there’s nothing missing again -and we will move on to the next tendency.

all the new cross internet/mobile/real life applications are still bound to the internet. you’re still doing the admin on the net. Even my lovely Nabaztag is administrated from the internet. I can’t acces it otherwise.

this is where the next change will happen. the movement will go airborn and away from the internet as second life. second life and real life will get closer to each other. My best bid right now people *gg*

Stephanie Booth is also writing some on this subject ( but with the addiction twist) here