Comments on: the web as the secondary source of information… http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/ Business avantgardista & Social Web Rock n'Roll Chick at play Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:33:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Blockbuster Free Trial http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-33735 Blockbuster Free Trial Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:18:49 +0000 http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/#comment-33735 <strong>Random Rants...</strong> [...] I highly recommend that you check out this blog, I found it quite fascinating [...]... Random Rants…

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]]> By: Web avant-garde » Blog Archive » “Social” need the “web of things” to keep it growing http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-33683 Web avant-garde » Blog Archive » “Social” need the “web of things” to keep it growing Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:46:49 +0000 http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/#comment-33683 [...] But I had a comment from Pedro Bruno, where he claims that we are right in between the ”web of people” and ”web of things”. And as I probably have claimed a lot recently, I think that there are some web apps who are pushing this. And for a good reason also ! [...] [...] But I had a comment from Pedro Bruno, where he claims that we are right in between the ”web of people” and ”web of things”. And as I probably have claimed a lot recently, I think that there are some web apps who are pushing this. And for a good reason also ! [...]

]]> By: henriette weber andersen http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-33629 henriette weber andersen Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:25:56 +0000 http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/#comment-33629 hi Bruno - it is very filosofical - I think that the Unfolded Web is a great term - I use the transitional web - for where we are right now because a transition has to be made, and it is what is required from web 2.0 companies( R.I.P guys) I like your idea of web of people and web of things... *s* we are at this place, the interesting thing is to see how well the communities will handle this transition from people to things... hi Bruno – it is very filosofical – I think that the Unfolded Web is a great term – I use the transitional web – for where we are right now because a transition has to be made, and it is what is required from web 2.0 companies( R.I.P guys) I like your idea of web of people and web of things… *s* we are at this place, the interesting thing is to see how well the communities will handle this transition from people to things…

]]> By: Bruno Pedro http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-33468 Bruno Pedro Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:48:11 +0000 http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/#comment-33468 The way I see it, we can describe the following states: 0- Localized Information - "everything" was on your PC ... 1- Web of Documents - early days, all about presentation 2- Web of Data - late 90's, search all over, pointers to data 3- Web of People - social networking, messaging, all about people interacting ... 4- Web of Things - information is "everywhere" all the time, you can consume anyway you like, all things are somehow interconnected To get from 0 to 1 you had to let go the concept of communication as an expensive task where you'd establish a point-to-point connection. You had to think of communication as a mesh of connected nodes that could talk to each other. To get from 3 to 4 (where we are standing right now) you'll have to let go the concept of information consumption as a task where you establish a point-to-point interaction (reading a web page, reading a blog post, updating your Hi5 profile, and so on). You'll have to think of interaction as a mesh of connected information that can talk to each other. I call this stage the "Unfolded Web". Imagine an Origami. When you look at it you see a form, a presentation. But an Origami is just a plain piece of paper, folded. What if you want to create a diferent form using that piece of paper? You'll have to unfold the Origami and start over again, right? That's just what we're doing right now. We're Unfolding the Web so that we can fold it back in any ways we want to. In a near future we'll be able to consume mixed information in ways never imagined before. I know this sounds kind of phillosophical right now, but that's just the way it is. Ideas start somehow and then, who knows, they materialize. The way I see it, we can describe the following states:

0- Localized Information – “everything” was on your PC

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1- Web of Documents – early days, all about presentation
2- Web of Data – late 90′s, search all over, pointers to data
3- Web of People – social networking, messaging, all about people interacting

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4- Web of Things – information is “everywhere” all the time, you can consume anyway you like, all things are somehow interconnected

To get from 0 to 1 you had to let go the concept of communication as an expensive task where you’d establish a point-to-point connection. You had to think of communication as a mesh of connected nodes that could talk to each other.

To get from 3 to 4 (where we are standing right now) you’ll have to let go the concept of information consumption as a task where you establish a point-to-point interaction (reading a web page, reading a blog post, updating your Hi5 profile, and so on). You’ll have to think of interaction as a mesh of connected information that can talk to each other.

I call this stage the “Unfolded Web”. Imagine an Origami. When you look at it you see a form, a presentation. But an Origami is just a plain piece of paper, folded. What if you want to create a diferent form using that piece of paper? You’ll have to unfold the Origami and start over again, right?

That’s just what we’re doing right now. We’re Unfolding the Web so that we can fold it back in any ways we want to. In a near future we’ll be able to consume mixed information in ways never imagined before.

I know this sounds kind of phillosophical right now, but that’s just the way it is. Ideas start somehow and then, who knows, they materialize.

]]> By: Henriette http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-32910 Henriette Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:55:01 +0000 http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/#comment-32910 I think your right - powered by webtechnology the connections will be first source of information and the web secondary - but if the web apps are going to be on the desktop - I think the web is going to redefine itself further.. very interesting though... I think your right – powered by webtechnology the connections will be first source of information and the web secondary – but if the web apps are going to be on the desktop – I think the web is going to redefine itself further..

very interesting though…

]]> By: Mark Wubben http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-32906 Mark Wubben Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:43:11 +0000 http://henrietteweber.com/2007/02/21/the-web-as-the-secondary-source-of-information/#comment-32906 Funny part is, web technology will be powering most of what you are describing. Same for web applications, they'll move into the Desktop. Either as a native app or in a special browser(shell). Funny part is, web technology will be powering most of what you are describing. Same for web applications, they’ll move into the Desktop. Either as a native app or in a special browser(shell).

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